The thing about groove, is I love and have been passionate about the products they created. I have rings, belt, watchband and a wallet on the way. So far everything has been great, I do recommend to everyone I come across. I have bought many replacement watch bands and this one is solid. I do wish the extra strap holder thing was like the other watch band I got from them where it has a piece to drop into the link and keep its place. Though this one has two holder things which is also great. I highly recommend all of their products, they have the best customer service and is a company who does care for their customers! Will continue to support with my word of mouth referrals as well as purchasing more products. Mahalo from Hawaii